【中美创新时报2024 年 11 月 8 日编译讯】（记者温友平编译）当当选总统与乌克兰领导人交谈时，埃隆·马斯克在海湖庄园与唐纳德·特朗普在一起。目前尚不清楚他们是否讨论了美国对乌克兰政策的任何变化。《纽约时报》记者玛吉·哈伯曼对此作了下述详细报道。
据一位知情人士透露，当选总统唐纳德·J·特朗普周三与乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基进行了交谈，并在通话过程中将电话交给了埃隆·马斯克，这位影响力日益增强的亿万富翁在为乌克兰与俄罗斯的战争提供通信能力方面发挥了关键作用。
目前尚不清楚这三人是否谈到了特朗普当选后美国对乌克兰政策的任何变化。据知情人士透露，马斯克与特朗普在佛罗里达州的私人俱乐部和住所海湖庄园会面，通话的气氛被描述为积极。
第二位了解通话情况的人士也证实了马斯克的参与，Axios 早些时候报道了此事。
第三位了解通话情况的人士将其描述为“一次很好的谈话”，称泽连斯基曾致电特朗普向他表示祝贺，当特朗普把电话递给马斯克时，泽连斯基感谢了他在沟通方面的帮助。
特朗普的发言人没有立即对通话发表评论。
特朗普承诺将迅速结束冲突，这一立场被广泛认为允许俄罗斯保住自 2022 年入侵乌克兰以来占领的领土。在总统辩论中，特朗普拒绝透露他希望看到哪一方赢得战争，并暗示泽连斯基从拜登政府获得了太多的军事和财政援助。
马斯克近几个月来与特朗普关系密切，在总统竞选期间为特朗普提供资金和后勤支持，并在其社交媒体平台 X（前身为 Twitter）上大力支持他，他通过 Starlink 卫星通信网络成为乌克兰战争的重要供应商。
马斯克是美国政府的主要承包商，尤其是五角大楼，五角大楼严重依赖 SpaceX 的发射能力。他已经寻求在特朗普上任后让自己的一些员工进入政府工作，特朗普表示希望马斯克能够提出削减政府开支的建议。
在周三早些时候特朗普宣布赢得总统竞选后，泽连斯基敦促特朗普帮助加强乌克兰抵御俄罗斯侵略的能力。
“对我们乌克兰人和整个欧洲人来说，听到当时美国第 45 任总统关于‘以实力求和平’的言论一直至关重要，”泽连斯基在社交媒体上写道。 “当这一原则成为第 47 任总统的政策时，美国和整个世界无疑都会受益。”
泽连斯基先生补充道：“罗纳德·里根如今被如此频繁地提及并非巧合——人们想要信心，想要自由，想要正常的生活。对我们来说，这意味着一种没有俄罗斯侵略的生活，拥有强大的美国、强大的乌克兰和强大的盟友。”
与泽连斯基先生的谈话是这位当选总统在过去几天与外国领导人进行的数十次通话之一。
特朗普先生还与土耳其总统雷杰普·塔伊普·埃尔多安进行了交谈，显然是在与泽连斯基先生通话的同一天。埃尔多安先生告诉记者，在他们通话期间，特朗普先生正在与马斯克先生共进晚餐。
据泽连斯基前发言人尤利娅·孟德尔 (Iuliia Mendel) 称，尽管这似乎是马斯克第一次加入特朗普和泽连斯基的通话，但他在战争期间至少与这位乌克兰领导人通话过两次。
孟德尔女士在近三年前俄罗斯入侵前曾在乌克兰总统府工作，她说，她曾帮助安排马斯克和泽连斯基在 2022 年 3 月的两次通话，当时俄罗斯入侵大约两周。
孟德尔女士在近三年前俄罗斯入侵前曾在乌克兰总统府工作，她说，她曾帮助安排马斯克和泽连斯基在 2022 年 3 月的两次通话，当时俄罗斯入侵大约两周。
孟德尔女士说，马斯克的一位熟人在 3 月初联系了她，请她帮忙安排这次通话。她补充说，就马斯克而言，这位乌克兰领导人希望马斯克能帮助他与克里姆林宫展开谈判。她说，泽连斯基在其中一次通话中特别要求马斯克协助与莫斯科达成协议，开辟一条人道主义走廊，以撤离被围困在乌克兰马里乌波尔的平民。
目前尚不清楚马斯克在与泽连斯基通了两次电话后是否与克里姆林宫进行了交谈。
Andrew E. Kramer 和 Constant Méheut 对本文亦有贡献。
题图：埃隆·马斯克为特朗普竞选团队提供了资金和后勤支持。图片来源：Hiroko Masuike/纽约时报
附原英文报道：
Trump Put Musk on Phone With Zelensky During Call
Elon Musk was with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago when the president-elect spoke with Ukraine’s leader. It is not clear if they discussed any change in U.S. policy toward Ukraine.
Elon Musk provided the Trump campaign with financial and logistical support.Credit…Hiroko Masuike/The New York Times
By Maggie Haberman Nov. 8, 2024
President-elect Donald J. Trump spoke on Wednesday with Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, and during the call handed the phone to Elon Musk, the increasingly influential billionaire who has played a key role in providing communications capability to Ukraine in its war with Russia, a person familiar with the discussion said.
It is not clear whether the three men touched on any change in U.S. policy toward Ukraine in the wake of Mr. Trump’s election. Mr. Musk was with Mr. Trump at Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence in Florida, and the tone of the call was described as positive, according to the person familiar with the discussion.
A second person briefed on the call also confirmed Mr. Musk’s participation, which was reported earlier by Axios.
A third person briefed on the call described it as a “good talk,” saying that Mr. Zelensky had called Mr. Trump to congratulate him, and that when Mr. Trump handed Mr. Musk the phone, Mr. Zelensky thanked him for the communication assistance.
A Trump spokesman did not immediately provide a comment on the call.
Mr. Trump has promised to bring a quick end to the conflict, a position widely seen as allowing Russia to hold on to the territory it has seized since invading Ukraine in 2022. During a presidential debate, Mr. Trump declined to say which side he wanted to see win the war, and he has suggested that Mr. Zelensky has gotten too much military and financial aid from the Biden administration.
Mr. Musk, who has become close to Mr. Trump in recent months and who provided him with financial and logistical support in the presidential campaign, as well as with full-throated backing on his social media platform X, formerly known as Twitter, has been a vital supplier to the Ukrainian war effort through his Starlink satellite communications network.
Mr. Musk is a major U.S. government contractor, especially to the Pentagon, which relies heavily on SpaceX for launch capacity. He has already sought to have some of his employees placed in government jobs when Mr. Trump takes office, and Mr. Trump has said he wants Mr. Musk in a role recommending ways to slash government spending.
After Mr. Trump was declared the winner of the presidential race early on Wednesday, Mr. Zelensky urged Mr. Trump to help strengthen Ukraine against Russian aggression.
“For us in Ukraine, and all across Europe, it has always been crucial to hear the words of the then 45th President of the United States about ‘peace through strength,’” Mr. Zelensky wrote on social media. “When this principle becomes the policy of the 47th President, both America and the entire world will undoubtedly benefit.”
Mr. Zelensky added: “It’s no coincidence that Ronald Reagan is mentioned so often these days — people want confidence, they want freedom, they want a normal life. For us, that means a life free from Russian aggression, with a strong America, a strong Ukraine, and strong allies.”
The conversation with Mr. Zelensky was one of dozens of calls with foreign leaders the president-elect held in the last few days.
Mr. Trump also spoke with Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, apparently on the same day as the call with Mr. Zelensky. Mr. Erdogan told reporters that during their conversation, Mr. Trump was having dinner with Mr. Musk.
Although it appeared to be the first time that Mr. Musk had joined a phone call between Mr. Trump and Mr. Zelensky, he has talked to the Ukrainian leader on at least two occasions during the war, according to Iuliia Mendel, a former spokeswoman for Mr. Zelensky.
Ms. Mendel, who worked for the Ukrainian presidential administration before Russia invaded nearly three years ago, said she had helped organize two calls between Mr. Musk and Mr. Zelensky in March 2022, roughly two weeks into the Russian invasion.
Ms. Mendel, who worked for the Ukrainian presidential administration before Russia invaded nearly three years ago, said she had helped organize two calls between Mr. Musk and Mr. Zelensky in March 2022, roughly two weeks into the Russian invasion.
Ms. Mendel said an acquaintance of Mr. Musk’s had reached out to her in early March, asking her to help set up the call. For his part, she added, the Ukrainian leader was interested in Mr. Musk’s help in opening negotiations with the Kremlin. In particular, she said, Mr. Zelensky asked during one of the calls for Mr. Musk’s assistance in securing an agreement with Moscow to open a humanitarian corridor to evacuate civilians stranded in the besieged Ukrainian city of Mariupol.
It is unknown if Mr. Musk talked to the Kremlin following his two calls with Mr. Zelensky.
Andrew E. Kramer and Constant Méheut contributed reporting.
