【中美创新时报2024 年 12 月 13 日编译讯】（记者温友平编译）当选总统唐纳德·特朗普在一次新的采访中表示，他将利用总统任期的开放时间赦免因参与 2021 年 1 月 6 日国会大厦袭击而被定罪的人，开始驱逐没有永久合法身份的移民，并增加石油产量。《纽约时报》记者迈克尔·D·谢尔对此作了下述报道。
他在《时代》杂志周四发表的采访中还表示，如果数据显示与自闭症有关，他可能会支持取消一些儿童疫苗。他拒绝回答自 11 月大选以来是否与俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京交谈过的问题，但表示不应允许乌克兰向俄罗斯发射美国制造的导弹。
谈到 1 月 6 日案件的赦免，他说：“我们将很快进行，将在我上任后的第一个小时内开始。”他说，赦免的对象将是国会大厦中的“非暴力”人士，特朗普在 2020 年大选失败后，国会大厦被特朗普的支持者占领。“绝大多数人不应该被关进监狱，他们遭受了严重的痛苦，”他说。
这位当选总统的评论是在 11 月 25 日进行的一次内容广泛的采访中发表的，该采访是该杂志选择特朗普为年度人物的一部分。
特朗普在 2016 年首次赢得总统大选后也获得了这一称号，现在他加入了 16 人中不止一次被选中的群体。这个俱乐部包括最近三任两届总统：比尔·克林顿、乔治·W·布什和巴拉克·奥巴马。（富兰克林·D·罗斯福是唯一三次获得该称号的人。）
《时代》杂志主编山姆·雅各布斯在杂志上写道，选择并不困难：“在他第二任总统任期即将结束时，我们所有人——从他最狂热的支持者到他最激烈的批评者——都生活在特朗普时代。”
周四上午在纽约证券交易所敲响开市钟的特朗普与《时代》的关系一直不和。在被评为 2016 年年度人物后，他称该杂志是一份“非常重要”的出版物，并表示该杂志授予了他“巨大的荣誉”。
在周四发表的采访中，该杂志称采访持续了一个多小时，当选总统吹嘘他的竞选活动“完美无缺”，民主党与美国人脱节。
他还表示，他计划“实质上关闭华盛顿的教育部”，但他没有解释这意味着什么。他还表示，他可能会推翻拜登总统扩大《教育法修正案第九条》保护范围的决定，其中包括禁止骚扰跨性别学生。
美国人“不想看到男性参加女子运动。他们不想看到，”特朗普说。“他们不想看到所有这些跨性别者，也就是说，他们只是接管了这一切。”
在外交政策方面，这位当选总统猛烈抨击拜登允许乌克兰使用美国制造的导弹打击俄罗斯部分目标的决定，称这是自 2022 年莫斯科全面入侵以来的战斗升级。他暗示，一旦他重返办公室，结束战争的努力可能会获得动力。
“但我想人们会等到我上任后才会发生任何事情。我想，”他告诉《时代》杂志。“我认为这样做非常明智。”
特朗普拒绝透露他是否收到以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡的保证，称他将结束加沙地带的战争。但这位当选总统驳斥了对旷日持久的战争可能进一步破坏中东稳定的担忧。
他说中东正在发生“一些非常有成效的事情”，但拒绝透露具体是什么。
“我认为中东问题比俄罗斯和乌克兰的问题更容易处理。好吧，我只想先说这些。中东问题会得到解决的，”他说，并补充道：“我认为它比俄罗斯和乌克兰问题更复杂，但我认为它更容易解决。”
在采访中，特朗普花了大量时间讨论移民问题。他反复表示，他将开始打击非法居住在美国的人。他说，联邦法律并不禁止使用军队来打击非法移民。
“如果这是对我们国家的入侵，那么军队不会停止行动，我认为这是对我们国家的入侵，”这位当选总统说。“我只会做法律允许的事情，但我会尽最大努力做到法律允许的最大限度。”
关于疫苗，特朗普表示，他计划听取罗伯特·F·肯尼迪 (Robert F. Kennedy Jr.) 的论点，他长期对疫苗持怀疑态度，是特朗普选择领导卫生与公众服务部的人选。两人都宣扬过疫苗导致自闭症的理论，但这一理论已被揭穿。
“我们将进行一次大讨论。自闭症的发病率已经达到了一个从未有人相信的水平。如果你看看正在发生的事情，就会发现一定有某种原因导致了它，”特朗普在采访中说。
这位当选总统表示，这一讨论可能会导致一些儿童疫苗被禁止。
“如果我认为疫苗很危险，如果我认为疫苗没有好处，那么可能会禁止，但我认为最终不会引起很大争议，”他说。
本文最初发表于《纽约时报》。
题图：周四，在曼哈顿纽约证券交易所敲响开市钟声之前，一块标牌宣布当选总统唐纳德·特朗普被《时代》杂志评为年度人物。道格·米尔斯/纽约时报
附原英文报道：
Trump says his first acts will include deportations and Jan. 6 pardons
By Michael D. Shear New York Times,Updated December 12, 2024
A sign announced President-elect Donald Trump’s selection as Time magazine’s Person of the Year, before he was to ring the bell to open trading at the New York Stock Exchange in Manhattan on Thursday.DOUG MILLS/NYT
President-elect Donald Trump said in a new interview that he will use the opening hours of his presidency to pardon people convicted of participating in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol assault, begin deportations of immigrants lacking permanent legal status, and increase oil production.
He also said during the interview, which Time magazine published Thursday, that he might support getting rid of some childhood vaccines if data shows links to autism. He declined to answer a question about whether he had talked with President Vladimir Putin of Russia since the November election but said Ukraine should not have been allowed to fire US-made missiles into Russia.
Speaking of pardons in Jan. 6 cases, he said: “We’re going to do it very quickly, and it’s going to start in the first hour that I get into office.” He said the pardons would go to “nonviolent” people who were at the Capitol, which was overrun by Trump supporters after he lost the 2020 election. “A vast majority should not be in jail, and they’ve suffered gravely,” he said.
The president-elect’s comments came during a wide-ranging interview conducted Nov. 25 as part of the magazine’s choice of Trump to be its person of the year.
Trump also received the title in 2016, after his first presidential election victory, and now joins a group of 16 people who have been chosen more than once. The club includes the last three two-term presidents: Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama. (Franklin D. Roosevelt is the only person to have been given the title three times.)
Sam Jacobs, Time’s editor-in-chief, wrote in the magazine that the choice was not a difficult one: “On the cusp of his second presidency, all of us — from his most fanatical supporters to his most fervent critics — are living in the Age of Trump.”
Trump, who rang the opening bell at the New York Stock Exchange on Thursday morning, has had a tempestuous relationship with Time. After being named person of the year in 2016, he described the magazine as a “very important” publication and said it had granted him a “tremendous honor.”
In the interview published Thursday, which the magazine said lasted more than an hour, the president-elect bragged that he had run a “flawless” campaign and that Democrats were out of touch with Americans.
He also said he planned a “virtual closure of Department of Education in Washington,” though he did not explain what that meant. And he said that he might reverse President Biden’s expansion of Title IX protections, which includes prohibitions against harassment of transgender students.
Americans “don’t want to see, you know, men playing in women’s sports. They don’t,” Trump said. “They don’t want to see all of this transgender, which is, it’s just taken over.”
On foreign policy, the president-elect lashed out against Biden’s decision to allow Ukraine to use US-made missiles against some targets in Russia, calling it an escalation of the fighting that began with Moscow’s full-scale invasion in 2022. He hinted that efforts to reach an end to the war might gain momentum once he is back in office.
“But I would imagine people are waiting until I get in before anything happens. I would imagine,” he told Time. “I think that would be very smart to do that.”
Trump declined to say whether he had received assurances from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel that he would end the war in the Gaza Strip. But the president-elect dismissed concerns about a protracted war that could further destabilize the Middle East.
He said “some very productive things” were happening in the Middle East, but refused to say what they were.
“I think that the Middle East is an easier problem to handle than what’s happening with Russia and Ukraine. OK, I just want to say that up front. The Middle East is going to get solved,” he said, adding: “I think it’s more complicated than the Russia-Ukraine, but I think it’s, it’s, it’s easier to solve.”
In the interview, Trump spent a significant amount of time on immigration. He repeatedly said that he would begin a crackdown on people who are in the United States illegally. He said federal law does not prohibit the use of the military in that effort.
“Well, it doesn’t, it doesn’t stop the military if it’s an invasion of our country, and I consider it an invasion of our country,” the president-elect said. “I’ll only do what the law allows, but I will go up to the maximum level of what the law allows.”
On vaccines, Trump said he plans to listen to the arguments made by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a longtime vaccine skeptic who is Trump’s choice to lead the Department of Health and Human Services. Both men have promoted the debunked theory that vaccines cause autism.
“We’re going to have a big discussion. The autism rate is at a level that nobody ever believed possible. If you look at things that are happening, there’s something causing it,” Trump said in the interview.
The president-elect said that the discussion could lead to some childhood vaccinations being banned.
“It could if I think it’s dangerous, if I think they are not beneficial, but I don’t think it’s going to be very controversial in the end,” he said.
This article originally appeared in The New York Times.
